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Oct. 28th, 2008 11:20 amMy calculations so far about distances in Narnia; feel free to niggle and quibble, people!
Miraz's castle to Beaversdam = 1 mile (PC, chapter 4)
Beavers' dam to Stone Table = roughly a day (LWW, chapter 8) [they leave probably around 4.30pm based on the fact that Edmund notes that they started dinner at 3.00pm, then arrive at the Stone Table at sunset the next day, probably around 6pm at the latest given it's winter and the sun sets early. Giving them six hours or so for sleep and for meeting Father Christmas etc, this gives them about 19.5 hrs walking. Lucy's probably the slowest member of the group, so say a pace of 2mph gives us 39 miles from Beavers' dam to Stone Table] [Bridget suggests that notes be made of any and all mentions of rough ground, going slower due to tiredness, etc]
Cair Paravel to Beruna = a day and a bit (PC, chapter 8) [Given that a day's walking is usually about from say 7am to 6 pm; 11 hrs, suggests to me that CP to Beruna is probably 18 hrs. At an adult easy walking pace of about 3 mph, gives us 54 miles]
Beruna to Aslan's How = half a day (PC, chapter 8) [Probably about six hours? At 3mph, probably 18 miles]
Cair Paravel to Glasswater = probably about 8 hours; they had breakfast at 9am, then Trumpkin told his tale, which was a long one, so if we're charitable and say they left at 11am, they were paddling up Glasswater by twilight, which I'm guessing was about 7.30-8pm as it appears to be summer. Rowing speed for a bunch of kids and a dwarf who are none of them used to it is probably around 3 knots, or 3.5mph, which means that Cair Paravel to Glasswater is likely about 28 miles.
Glasswater to Aslan's How = Edmund reckons this would only have taken three hours or so when the Rush was a 'little stream' (PC, chapter 9). Once they'd found the Rush, of course, they went downstream to Beruna (which took probably about four hours, give or take, although the book is a bit vague), and then back upstream (probably a loss of eight hours altogether, because they got back to the fir wood while it was still daylight, then after dinner and some sleep, (if it was dark by the time they went to sleep, then I guess they set off again after Aslan at about eleven o clock that night? And probably reached the How by say 1 am at the latest.) Then there's all the nonsense with Aslan and Trumpkin and then Bacchus etc before anything sensible gets done, but it probably adds up, subtracting delays, to four or five hours from Glasswater across the Rush to Aslan's How. At 3mph this will be 12-15 miles.
Miraz's Camp to Aslan's How = 1 hour (PC, chapter 13).
Miraz's castle to Beaversdam = 1 mile (PC, chapter 4)
Beavers' dam to Stone Table = roughly a day (LWW, chapter 8) [they leave probably around 4.30pm based on the fact that Edmund notes that they started dinner at 3.00pm, then arrive at the Stone Table at sunset the next day, probably around 6pm at the latest given it's winter and the sun sets early. Giving them six hours or so for sleep and for meeting Father Christmas etc, this gives them about 19.5 hrs walking. Lucy's probably the slowest member of the group, so say a pace of 2mph gives us 39 miles from Beavers' dam to Stone Table] [Bridget suggests that notes be made of any and all mentions of rough ground, going slower due to tiredness, etc]
Cair Paravel to Beruna = a day and a bit (PC, chapter 8) [Given that a day's walking is usually about from say 7am to 6 pm; 11 hrs, suggests to me that CP to Beruna is probably 18 hrs. At an adult easy walking pace of about 3 mph, gives us 54 miles]
Beruna to Aslan's How = half a day (PC, chapter 8) [Probably about six hours? At 3mph, probably 18 miles]
Cair Paravel to Glasswater = probably about 8 hours; they had breakfast at 9am, then Trumpkin told his tale, which was a long one, so if we're charitable and say they left at 11am, they were paddling up Glasswater by twilight, which I'm guessing was about 7.30-8pm as it appears to be summer. Rowing speed for a bunch of kids and a dwarf who are none of them used to it is probably around 3 knots, or 3.5mph, which means that Cair Paravel to Glasswater is likely about 28 miles.
Glasswater to Aslan's How = Edmund reckons this would only have taken three hours or so when the Rush was a 'little stream' (PC, chapter 9). Once they'd found the Rush, of course, they went downstream to Beruna (which took probably about four hours, give or take, although the book is a bit vague), and then back upstream (probably a loss of eight hours altogether, because they got back to the fir wood while it was still daylight, then after dinner and some sleep, (if it was dark by the time they went to sleep, then I guess they set off again after Aslan at about eleven o clock that night? And probably reached the How by say 1 am at the latest.) Then there's all the nonsense with Aslan and Trumpkin and then Bacchus etc before anything sensible gets done, but it probably adds up, subtracting delays, to four or five hours from Glasswater across the Rush to Aslan's How. At 3mph this will be 12-15 miles.
Miraz's Camp to Aslan's How = 1 hour (PC, chapter 13).
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Date: 2008-10-28 12:43 pm (UTC)Maybe eight if you want to take the Mandatory Logical Three-Year Break after LWW.
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Date: 2008-10-28 08:09 pm (UTC)Why is a three year gap between LWW and PC logical? One between PC and VOTD, yes, since VOTD is set "years" after the war and Peter's clearly 18 in it, but why after LWW?
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Date: 2008-10-28 08:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-28 10:32 pm (UTC)Or you can throw your hands in the air and screw logic, as Lewis apparently did.
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Date: 2008-10-28 10:34 pm (UTC)Lewis just obviously has the same problems with basic arithmetic that I do, and no Pads to hang around and fix them for him.
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Date: 2008-10-28 10:34 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2008-10-28 10:44 pm (UTC)Although a badly trained seven or eight, honestly, who goes home to tea with strange men with goat's legs that they haven't met before? Doesn't anyone in wartime Britain tell children about stranger danger?
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Date: 2008-10-28 10:46 pm (UTC)My biggest problem is the gap between PC and VOTD. It's canonically stated to be a year, but the war is described as "long ago" in VOTD, despite LWW being in 1941, and Peter's described as studying for a very important exam, which would be his Highers, making him 18 or thereabouts. It just... doesn't fit. Still, if Peter's 18, then Edmund's got to be, what, 15? Which isn't quite legal, but less squicky than slashing him with Caspian when one's canonically 13 and the other's canonically about 18.
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Date: 2008-10-28 10:52 pm (UTC)That's what I'm figuring. Although I I think when someone asked I said Edmund "Could be anywhere between 13 and 16". And, if you think about it, is MIND is around thirty, so he's well and truly of the age to consent, since consent is something you do with your mind...
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