Narnia Map!
Nov. 29th, 2008 12:54 pmUm, so, it's done and it's here:
http://www.box.net/shared/l0b4f0tcno
I'll be posting the long justifications of all the cartographic decisions I made later; all I can say right now is that please, if you spot anything that contradicts the books, don't hesitate to tell me so I can fix the map and make it as accurate as possible.
If you have friends in Narnia fandom who need a map that makes some kind of sense to use in their ficcing, please pass the link on. Hopefully we can thus all forget Walden Media ever made a map. I hope.
http://www.box.net/shared/l0b4f0tcno
I'll be posting the long justifications of all the cartographic decisions I made later; all I can say right now is that please, if you spot anything that contradicts the books, don't hesitate to tell me so I can fix the map and make it as accurate as possible.
If you have friends in Narnia fandom who need a map that makes some kind of sense to use in their ficcing, please pass the link on. Hopefully we can thus all forget Walden Media ever made a map. I hope.
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Date: 2008-11-29 03:29 am (UTC)That's IMPRESSIVE. Congratsi, Trojie!
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Date: 2008-11-29 03:30 am (UTC)Geological version coming up in a week or so
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Date: 2008-11-30 08:45 am (UTC)Will download tomorrow when the internet recovers from the 'you've downloaded too much' slap on the wrist we got last week.
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Date: 2008-12-01 04:12 am (UTC)I pimped it for you on narnia_fiction.
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Date: 2008-12-01 04:16 am (UTC)*constantly worried* Does it look accurate? TELL me if there's something wrong!
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Date: 2008-12-01 06:38 am (UTC)My spur-of-the-moment, made up this second theory is that they were camping over the river from the How - not basing themselves in Miraz's castle. Course, this is directly in contravention of The Film, but then this map is book based. A river isn't a *bad* defensive line if the other side is much smaller and you hold the only bridge, which you've built over the only ford.
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Date: 2008-12-02 11:07 pm (UTC)From Prince Caspian:
"In a few minutes all Miraz's followers were running down to the Great River in the hope of crossing the bridge to the town of Beruna and there defending themselves behind ramparts and closed gates."
I love the map - it's terrific, and your mountain ranges and distances make very good sense. The only thing I can see to quibble about is Cair Paravel's island - the channel between it and the mainland is only supposed to be 30-40 yards wide at the narrowest point, but it looks about a couple of miles out to sea there. ;-)
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Date: 2008-12-02 11:12 pm (UTC)You make a good point there - I will see if I can jiggle it closer through the magic of CorelDraw 12. The scale of the map was one thing that gave me pause for thought, I must admit - Narnia's described in detail and is tiny, but the other regions have almost no features and yet are huuuuuge.
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Date: 2008-12-02 11:17 pm (UTC)And everything else you just leave blank as currently unexplored and write in "here be Dragons".
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Date: 2008-12-02 11:20 pm (UTC)And I have to ask, Muridae as in the family of molluscs?
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Date: 2008-12-02 11:29 pm (UTC)A bit more mammalian than that, but you're heading in the right direction. The inspiration for the name came from here:
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9781565924192/colophon.html
though it's a good long while since I touched Perl. But basically, it's me being an AnonyMouse. :-)
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Date: 2008-12-01 05:47 am (UTC)All makes perfect sense. I agree with ineptshieldmaid about the river thing she mentioned, but I haven't the slightest clue how that could be amended and I'm not sure it needs to be.
Also, there's no indication of any of the major Narnian forests on the map...or is putting them in just too bloody complex?
Sorry, I'm being terribly critical...fact is, I actually feel like worshipping you a bit now. Because this is the best thing that has happened to the Narnia fandom in a LOOOOONG time.
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Date: 2008-12-01 06:41 am (UTC)The forests aren't mapped because forests are more transient and to be honest, Lewis put forests wherever they were convenient. Feel free to use it as a base to put ON the forests, though!
No, critical is good. Please be critical!
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Date: 2008-12-01 06:50 am (UTC)Out of curiosity, did Lewis ever even TRY to establish a proper map of Narnia?
This is why I kind of wish I was still obsessed with LOTR fanfic. Tolkien did a MUCH better job of fleshing out his world geographically, linguistically and culturally.
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Date: 2008-12-01 06:55 am (UTC)I'll have a go at locating the woods at some point if you like :) but the geological map is probably going to come first.
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Date: 2008-12-01 10:15 pm (UTC)Anyway, this is incredibly awesome!
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Date: 2008-12-01 10:22 pm (UTC)No, it shouldn't! The other thing that I tried to take into account is *who* was doing the marching; the Pevensies and the Beavers in LWW would have been considerably slower (Lucy and the Beavers had short legs, after all, and were in snow) than the Pevensies as adults in the Golden Age. And the section from Tashbaan to Archenland I had to base distances on estimates of the speed of travel of horses at various paces, and had to work out how long they spent at the walk, the trot, the gallop etc.
The hardest bit was deciding how far from Cair Paravel the marsh on the banks of the Shribble was; giant owls with children on their backs are a complete unknown quantity distance-wise :D Anyway, I *will* do my damndest to type up and post all of this sort of thing tonight, hopefully also with a helpful list of distances between notable landmarks.
Glad you like, and hope it will be useful!
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Date: 2008-12-02 11:40 pm (UTC)Seriously, I'm all very confused about distances and timing in Narnia. How far is Trufflehunter's cave from Miraz's castle to figure out how long it took Caspian to get there? Then if (at least in the movie) Trumpkin is taken back to the castle at Beaversdam and then floated down the river to Cair Paravel, how long would that take? (I think Trumpkin was only taken to Beruna in the books, which makes it a little better).
And then trying to figure out how the Pevensies and Trumpkin get from Glasswater Creek to the River Rush and then somehow to Beruna really didn't make any sense at all until I saw your map. So thank you.
Anyway, that's all just to say that your map is wonderful and I'm very impressed!
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Date: 2008-12-03 12:08 am (UTC)Glad it can be useful :)
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Date: 2008-12-04 01:55 am (UTC)Oh, wow, this is wonderful! I wish I had the skills (and the patience) to complete something like this.
And thank you so much for putting this together -- I'm always sitting there, trying to map things out in my head, and it always falls apart. I will definately be referencing this in the future. Now I have to show it to my younger sisters -- I just read them all of the books, and they'd love to this. :)
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